Unfortunately, perhaps, I have a conscience and my dishonesty gnawed at me persistently until the next day, when I confessed. They had published not some coded version of events, but the email itself in full. Ed, the real Ed, is absolutely delightful. So, that's where we had to go for WMD. Iran has been filmed loading missiles aboard some of its vessels. 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I don't know that consciously it did, it's just that I didn't know the story and so, for me, it was I asked Katharine, I flew to London, I met her for five days. ", Left: Dave Benett/Getty. She said, I was naive. By design. Whistleblower and former employee of Britain's global surveillance center GCHQ (Government Communications Head Quarters) Katharine Gun smiles as she speaks to the media during a press conference February 25, 2004 in London, England. WebWe speak with a British whistleblower whose attempts to expose lies about the Iraq invasion was called "the most important and courageous leak" in history by acclaimed So there is sometimes a thought in my head that says: What if Katharine hadn't leaked that memo? If there had been a UN resolution, there would have been no need to make a WMD argument because there are two legal ways to go to war. Later, she gave the document to a friend, who passed it onto a contact in the anti-war movement, until it finally landed with journalists Martin Bright and Ed Vulliamy The Observer. She went to this interview, the next minute were down this rabbit hole, the next minute my wifes telling the world. The truth is when she speaks to me, and she says, Gavin, we also go to lunch like everybody else in any other office. It's a fascinating film that really evokes the dangers of speaking out in the post-9/11 age, as well as the press's inability to challenge the official story on Iraq, particularly the U.S. press, which really just blacked out the Gun leak entirely. What we have in this country is very precious, and in a sense, when I make these kind of films I don't know if I consciously do it, it's actually reminding about us that authoritarianism and governments gone awry are not okay, and what makes us strongoh, that sounds terribly pretentious, but I think you see where I'm coming from. ", Speaking to Gun, and seeing her in archival footage at the end of the film, it is clear that Knightley didn't try to emulate the look or sound of the real-life Gun. Cheering crowds have never been my sort of thing. The invasion was a huge blow, says Gun. So thats how the scene happened, but she didnt know where he was for three days, he was at Harmonsworth, before she got him out. The true story of a British whistleblower who leaked information to the press about an illegal NSA spy operation designed to push the UN Security Council into sanctioning the 2003 invasion of Iraq. She thought wow, they need a Mandarin translator at GCHQ. David Dayen: One thing I think you depict really brilliantly in this story is what the climate was like at the time. Did that change your approach to presenting the film knowing that this was actually going to be somewhat of a surprise to people? The case and the resulting anxiety never seemed far away. Her story, which reveals what a country will do when it wants war and claims it does not, is told in an updated book and a major motion picture soon to be released--Official Secrets (Keira Knightly is Katharine). Although the story made headlines around the world at the time of the leak and later at the time of her trial, which collapsed after the prosecution withdrew its evidence, it remains largely missing from the official narratives of the build-up to the Iraq war. WebKatharine Gun, as passionately embodied here by Knightley, skews too noble to be particularly interesting, and the film is weakest when its focused on her and her husband Yet here was a story that had the capacity to derail the war altogether. In technical speak, the Americans wanted the whole gamut of information which would give US policy makers an edge in obtaining results favourable to US goals in relation to Iraq. That seems like the central undercurrent that is playing throughout the entire film. Right now my priorities are to ensure I am there for my daughter.". There were some audience questions as well. It was written in technical language, but the meaning was clear enough: the Americans were asking around 100 people in GCHQ to gather information from the communications made by diplomats from six nations Angola, Bulgaria, Cameroon, Chile, Guinea and Pakistan all which were then sitting on the United Nations Security Council. Photograph: Andy Hall for the Observer, en years ago, a young Mandarin specialist at GCHQ, the government's surveillance centre in Cheltenham, did something extraordinary. Which is to say that GCHQ was being asked to dig dirt on foreign officials so that they could be blackmailed, bribed or both in order to secure a UN resolution authorising an invasion. She said, You mean I dont have to wear a corset? To your point, in some way, she said to me, As a woman, its kind of ironic as an actress that I so often, even though Im in the modern world, that I have to find heroic women in period dramas wearing corsets. Theres something weird about that. We need a truth-sayer. The editorial position should never be that. '", "The scene where all of us receive this email and we're discussing the memo, that never happened. She wasnt planning to get caught and then the dilemma was, My friends are all going to have their lives ruined.. However, she is not without disappointment about how little obvious difference she made. Does anyone have any questions? Do you go vote? After a police interview, at which I repeated my admission, I was released on bail to await the decision of the Crown Prosecution Service. And he kept thinking, 'How am I going to portray this? Ms Gun worked as a translator at the GCHQ building in Cheltenham, pictured. The difficulties of translating Gun's story also made writing the climax of the film tricky. Donald Trump also is saying he doesn't want war, which is probably true. Our work is licensed under Creative Commons (CC BY-NC-ND 3.0). We may earn a commission from these links. We have a blondish-looking Katharine. Liberty, the civil rights organisation, and Ben Emmerson QC had already agreed to defend me and we prepared for trial. Before 1989, there had been a Public Interest Defence to protect whistleblowers, but that was altered amid the furore surrounding the sinking of the Argentinian Navy cruiser, the General Belgrano, in the course of the Falklands War. But she still was not uncomfortable with the other things we've talked about. Gavin Hood: And that really happened. Every product was carefully curated by an Esquire editor. Truth and accountability were drilled into me as a child. Maybe thats rewarding. It left me in an impossible predicament. As I walked down the red carpet, I had never in my life experienced the flash of so many cameras. And just coming from my perspective, the press, because a lot of this is a story about the press, and how they handle it. In real life, "the spellcheck largely happened through a series of phone calls," according to Bright, "because on a Sunday newspaper we don't work on a Sunday, and we don't work on a Monday. Questioner: The only thing that I've wondered while watching the film, since it's a true story, is how could Ms. Gunn, who was a spy, who was a member of an intelligence agency, be surprised when her husband got deportedor when the government came after her husband, how could she be surprised when all of the different reactions she got came forward? Our institutions matter. If it was, who cleared it to be passed to GCHQ? We are no longer accepting comments on this article. The email, which was sent by an American NSA official, suggested that the US was just as well aware that it couldnt earn UN support through valid arguments alone: The memo outlined a plan to bug diplomats from non-permanent UN Security Council Nations Chile, Pakistan, Bulgaria, Guinea, Angola, and Cameroon in search of intelligence that could be used to cajole and possibly even blackmail them into supporting the invasion. I never thought Id be choosing a dress for a red carpet appearance at a major film festival. I don't think I've ever met a more determined character and she remained utterly convinced of the justice of her cause: "There's nothing subsequent to the invasion that makes me think it was the right decision made by Bush and Blair." Never mind that invading another country for the purpose of regime change is illegal according to international laws to which the United States is a signatory. In fact, I had no idea what was going on. Powerful Commons committee could look at case for banning stoves in towns and Love Island hit by hundreds of Ofcom complaints from furious viewers over 'toxic femininity' row and Movie As easy as buying a loaf of bread: Undercover footage reveals how laughing gas is being sold from local Could Northern Ireland become the UK's Silicon Valley? And we keep that system alive. She made the point that if you have Helen Mirren playing the Queen or Meryl Streep playing Maggie Thatcher, everybody knows those people and your judged on how well you impersonate, if you will, those people. Some of those same birds are still flapping wings in the skies above Washington. Sound familiar? In one pivotal scene in the film, all of Gun and Bright's work is nearly undone by one mistake, as a member of The Observer team accidentally changed the American spelling of the memo into British spelling, something The Drudge Report then used to discredit the memo. It sounds big with Katharine but that's what inspired me. However, the Pentagon says the US deployment is "in response to indications of heightened Iranian readiness to conduct offensive operations against US forces and our interests.". Yet to this day there has been barely a mention of the Bush regimes disgraceful demand in official histories of the period, as if its been deliberately written out. President Bush visits the National Security Agency in Fort Meade, Maryland, January 25, 2006. David Dayen: I want to go to the questions now. [Gun's husband Yasar, a Kurd, was nearly deported back to the Middle East at one point, even though he had nothing to do with the leak.]. Do you vote, do you analyze who you should vote for or do you just take it for granted? You can look up Nicole Mowbray, she wrote an article in The Guardian a couple weeks ago, about this worst day of her life. This, remember, was a conflict that caused the deaths of 179 British servicemen, hundreds of thousands of Iraqis and caused countless more to suffer serious wounds, both physical and psychological. WebGun sacrificed so much when she decided to leak and has worked only intermittently since. But that shouldn't be the philosophy pre-war when you're trying to decide whether to go to war. I became a mother, we moved countries and I have come to terms with that year of my life, though it will always define me in some ways. As a film of her story is planned, she tells of her anger and frustration but not her regrets, Original reporting and incisive analysis, direct from the Guardian every morning, Katharine Gun back in Cheltenham last week: 'This is the ugly truth of what goes on.' It is to say that a government, for its own reasons may, either by design or through miscalculation, lead a country into an unnecessary and brutal war. After the initial flurry of media interest, I was left to figure out how to move on with my life and that proved hard. One by one, all those who received the email approximately 100 people were taken in for a grilling. When Katharine Gun came across a memo while working for the British government in 2003, her whole world changed. In the years following, an author called Marcia Mitchell contacted me and said she was keen to write a book about my case. ", "I think Gavin had a really difficult time telling this story because it doesn't fit into a normal sort of storytelling mode," said Gun. Who, one must ask, is provoking whom? But my point is simply this: The underpinnings of this country matter. Exaggerating threats to provoke a war? David Dayen is the Prospects executive editor. WebKatharine Gun wasn't looking for attention or any type of notoriety when in 2003, while working as a British intelligence specialist, she leaked a top secret memo. Had the film appeared any earlier, however, I dont think Id have been able to watch it, let alone help the makers. We must not be flummoxed by exaggerated claims of threats against America and our interests. It was only later in the green room that I asked what all the fuss had been about, wondering aloud if it had been the environmental protest group Extinction Rebellion. We were to target such things as phone calls and emails from their homes as well as their places of work. The email was demonstrating the depths to which the American and British governments would descend in order to get spurious legal cover for a war in the Middle East which would have utterly catastrophic consequences, as we know to our cost today. It is probably still too early to tell. The film also captures my determination to do what I believed was right and reveals how divisive the Iraq War was, particularly highlighting the anger within certain sections of the intelligence services as the sabre-rattling statements of Mr Blair and his spokesman Alastair Campbell were accepted without proper challenge by some in the media. However, Gun added that this was nothing on the anxiety she felt when the memo she had leaked ended up on the front page of The Observer, which she called "the most stressful memo of my life. I was called on to look this way and that and smile until my face was stiff. Please, become a member, or make a one-time donation, today. For example, a scene where Gun tries to get her husband out of an immigration detention center actually played out over three days during which she did not know where he was. Not only was the cable the most sensitive ever to be disclosed on either side of the Atlantic, it was also unique in its timing. The risks Gun took in revealing the UN email's existence were huge. The point of all of this is painfully obvious. What appealed to me in the end is that Katharine is in fact, far more like us. But Katharine only ever leaked this one memo. It's tough, the laws here are even stricter than in the UK. Id never seen anything like it. Look at what happened to Reality Winner in this country. It is to say that we need to know the truth behind the decisions to act or not to act. Why did the British authorities wait eight months before charging me and then drop the charges, claiming there was insufficient evi-dence for prosecution when I had confessed to the leak from the start? But, maybe if I didn't know and maybe if I went into that job and discovered oh my God, maybe I really can stop a terrorist attack today. WebKatharine Guns husbands photo revelations are not made by her yet. But, did it change the way I approached it? We started working on this three years ago and even then it felt relevant in the sense that the challenges we talked about earlier: Where does my loyalty lie? The only thing that we altered in that is that I didnt have time to tell it for as long as it went on. Happy and carefree, Id recently married my handsome husband and was working at GCHQ as a linguist. Those are compelling and important qualities to see in characters that move through a story, and I feel like especially for women it's an under-valued active engine. By printing off the memo, putting it in her handbag and taking it home, she was already committing a serious breach of the Official Secrets Act. We go to the canteen and we talk.. Perhaps it was no wonder that Tony Blairs government decided to abandon the case without offering any evidence. But the invasion was forced to proceed with the backing of Bushs coalition of the willinginstead of with the support of the United Nations. Actually, there were two incidents at sea, blamed originally on the North Vietnamese. Keira said no one knows Katharine, and that's not an insult to Katharine. But depicting that climate, people who were not aware or active at that timedidn't realize how difficult this was to talk against the war both from the journalist's perspective and obviously someone who's in the intelligence community. They're more polite to their suspects. Every day we worked together for about five to six hours and then I referred back to her many times, subsequently, but I had literally just said, let's start at the beginning and let me hear first-hand from you your story and then I'll tell that story. [U.S. media dropped the story because the Drudge Report noted that the NSA memo in The Observer had British spellings for words like favourable, which nobody in the U.S. would write. However, Gun was well aware that any attempt to release the memo would find her running afoul of Britains Official Secrets Act, which criminalizes the leaking of intelligence-related information. And it's also true that we were then attacked by the Drudge Report for what would now be called 'fake news. WebWhen the film opens, Gun (Keira Knightley) is happily married to Yasar (Adam Bakri), a Turkish national living in the UK on a temporary visa, and passionately invested in The views expressed in the contents above are those of our users and do not necessarily reflect the views of MailOnline. And I think thats why you get this very honest, pure, deeply felt performance. Or, in this case, when the Office of Special Plans was set up, youve got Feith and someone like Abram Shulsky, whose philosophy of intelligence is very different. That's really the simplest question: When do you speak up? Gun, her husband, and their four-year-old daughter shed their coveted privacy long enough to allow Katharine to be one of two former Sam Adams Award winners to present this year's award. He runs a media charity. WebKeira Knightley stars in this true story about Katharine Gun, a British intelligence officer who exposed the US government's efforts to force the UN Security Council to sanction the You may be able to find the same content in another format, or you may be able to find more information, at their web site. I did feel like, Well, I failed.. So, Im not really answering your question well, but her feeling was just: Now I dont belong in this company. The same countries demanded immediate answers from the British government about its involvement in the spying. Problem number two: Do you shut up or do you speak up? Amazing lady, shes still a journalist. In the runup to the critical vote on war in Iraq, Katharine Gun exposed a US plot to spy on the UN. My shock turned to anger as the significance sank in. What happened to Gun afterwards forms the basis of the film Official Secrets, which opened in New York and Los Angeles earlier this month and goes into wider release today. I spent the following hours doubled over the toilet bowl in absolute terror. The poor woman is based on a real person. Weve said it before: The greatest threat to democracy from the media isnt disinformation, its the paywall. Seven times I've submitted articles to you with an alternate point of view, and seven times you've turned me down. So I said to her at one point, and its in the movie because her interrogator said it too and you would ask her the same question, which is Katharine I hear all this, but it was a little muddy, you worked as a spy, you hacked peoples phones and computers, you do dirty tricks. She will not talk about it anything else. Gun, a translator with the British intelligence service known as Government Communications Headquarters (GCHQ), received a document just before the war from an NSA manager, seeking British intelligence support in spying on members of the UN Security Council, to effectively blackmail them into voting for a second resolution that would make legal the invasion of Iraq. Then the story went Interestingly I think we faced a challenge, which some of you may or may not agree with. Gavin Hood: Keira is wonderful and is absolutely professional, arrives perfectly prepared, very calm, no fuss. I am an American citizen; I have a strange accent but Ive been here 25 years; my kids were born here. WebYou may not know the name Katharine Gun unless you live in the United Kingdom, but she was a pivotal figure in the run-up to the Iraq War. [In real life] I saw the email, I immediately thought, 'Oh, my God, this is shocking.' The story went around the world and the leak electrified the international debate during the weeks of diplomatic deadlock. Which really, really, really happened. Warning: The following contains spoilers for Official Secrets. You dont have to agree with what she did, Im just telling you what she did. Now there is the possibility that Gun's singular life will be made into a movie. In leaking it to the Observer, she was also doing something unprecedented in the history of espionage. Progressive values. Iran, meanwhile, says it doesn't want war, but will defend itself. Most whistleblowers leak after the event to expose perceived wrongdoing. But this specificinstance is the ugly truth of what goes on.". WebThe Katharine Gun Case. America, Britain, and Spain withdrew their proposed resolution on invading Iraq when it became clear that it would not garner the necessary Security Council votes, in part because of the information Gun brought to light. I know what it is like to watch the system become completely authoritarian. One is kind of what I thought it was, which is the CIA is the Central Intelligence Agency, walled off from politicians and the executive in a perfect world, where all the intelligence comes in, they analyze it and they then present their best intelligence estimates; this is pre-war, youre not at war, to the executive branch. You have no idea. And she said, I dont work for the government. That was my first thoughtwhat do you mean you dont work for the government? It wasone of the reasons I came to this country in 89 was because we were getting drafted, and I thought I cant do this. And she thought she wouldnt get caught. Who authorised the NSA email, for example? David Dayen: And you were dealing with a story that was about a leak that didn't stop a war and leading to a trial that didn't happen. Quality journalism. Because I'm not ambitious it's not paramount for me to find myself in a high-paid job. Then the most almighty cacophony erupted, a roar so loud we could barely hear to speak. I admitted the leak and my life was turned upside down. Ive been impressed by the film-makers determination to stick to the facts Gavin Hood, the director, interviewed me at length over five days and I was consulted throughout the process. Supported by Liberty, the prominent British civil-rights campaigning organiza-tion, Gun and her lawyer, Ben Emmerson (Ralph Fiennes), decided to cite grounds of necessity in order to contest the charges laid against her. Gavin Hood: Thats such an interesting statement, I mean, I just took it at face value that papers take an editorial position, but youre right. If we give over, if we start believing the fake news, as you say, we're all doomed, man. Whether you work for Boeing or Enron or Wallstreet? And Where Is Katharine Gun, JUST 36 HOURS TO GO IN OUR WINTER CAMPAIGN. 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