Jack is first playable during the final sequence of the mission "The Last Enemy That Shall Be Destroyed"; he is limited to only riding his horseback to the Marston Ranch, and it is the only time where his 16 years-old self is controlled by the player. WebWell, there are two events, that if they never happened, we'd likely see Arthur Morgan survive. When players first meet John Marston in the first Red Dead Redemption, he is fresh off the train from his farmstead, which has been rendered nearly vacant as the FBI abducted his family in an attempt to strongarm him With this, Jack departs Blackwater. Red Dead Wiki is a FANDOM Games Community. So probably wont happen. The Shelby brothers from peaky blinders fought and Im sure they hated the government. Theplotkicks off in 1899,and it's established thatJack is roughly 4, having spent some of his formative years with the gang. After ending his business with Edgar Ross, John reunite with Jack and Abigail, as well with Uncle, who didn't keep the Marston Ranch in a good shape, leading all the livestock dead or stolen. I don't know if this question has been asked before on this sub, so forgive me if it has. He truly is Rockstar's most tragic character. Turning Jack's life into a video game would make it a violent and tragic affair. After taking Abigail from the house, and the three head for the barn, where John gets Jack and Abigail on a horse. However, Edgar Ross, the agent who John worked for, attacks the Marston family, killing John and Uncle. Sometimes, a glitch will occur in which a second shotgun can be seen floating beside Phillip Ross. /r/RedDeadRedemption - A subreddit dedicated to Red Dead Redemption & Red Dead Redemption 2, developed by Rockstar Games, the creators behind the Grand Theft Auto series. Just about everyone I knew in the Army hated the government. A few days after the bear hunt incident, Jack begins to work at the barn, until John enters. By rejecting non-essential cookies, Reddit may still use certain cookies to ensure the proper functionality of our platform. 1911 This will result in the player's death. A long time ago there were several theories as to the fate of Jack. In 1914, Jack's appearance is radically different. Uncle tried to stop the young boy from riding to Tall Trees, but fails. Jack refuses, takes a rifle, and helps John and Uncle in their fight against the lawmen. Died in 1881. I figure once he was done killing the guys he needed to he was probably done with it. After one wave of attackers, Jack joins John and Uncle in the fight, but Uncle soon dies from a fatal bullet, to Jack's horror. While not physically present during the first three-fourths of Redemption's narrative, Jack is sporadically mentioned by his father during conversations with many of his allies and enemies, including Leigh Johnson, Luisa Fortuna, Javier Escuella and Dutch van der Linde. One of Jack's most dominant traits was his fast learning: at 4 years old, Jack already possessed basic literacy skills, and he learned the basics of fishing from Arthur Morgan. He has also taken to wearing his father's hat. Age: 4 in RDR2 and 16 in RDR. Male He can be seen doing various different actions depending on the time of the day, playing with a Repeater Carbine during the day, and sitting next to the fireplace and playing the harmonica during the night. Abigail Marston was an important side character in both of the Red Dead Redemptiongames. $400+ (from looting Edgar Ross's corpse) Now you're on your own. John says that, "If you ever spoke to him, you'd think he only ate haggis and wore a kilt", implying that he either had a heavy accent or knew his culture very well. The bear comes out and rushes to attack them, but is shot dead by John. After visiting his wife and brother, Jack tracks Ross down to the banks of a Mexican river; the former agent enjoying his retirement with a spot of duck hunting. Height: isn't stated in the game or the Wikia, but Jack is believed He then unpacks his stuff and begins buying supplies to run the ranch once more. As the quest specifically deals with his father's past and eventual fate, Jack is unable to start or continue the side-mission "I Know You". Afterward, John takes Jack to Manzanita Post to teach him about selling meat and furs. Enhanced Reflexes Master Marksman Master hunter Master survivalist Master Hunter Master Tactician Master Horse Rider Skilled Hand to Hand Combatant. It was Dutch who taught John how to read and shoot, ultimately resulting in Marston becoming a member of the Van der Linde gang. After John completed tasks for Abigail and Uncle, he begins to spend time with Jack. And the goal is like GTA heists. Jack refuses to back down which results in a duel between the two, where Edgar Ross is gunned down. Joins the military and becomes a writer after his tour. Now a nineteen-year-old gunslinger and the spitting image of his father with similar skill in combat, Jack decides to hunt down his father's killer in revenge. Soon after the grizzly hunt incident, Jack is found by his father at the barn, where John praises his son for his skill with tools. Press J to jump to the feed. He starts making a lot of money and becomes very He spends most of his time reading, which furthers his knowledge but also made him shy. In 1911, Jack and his family, were kidnapped by federal agent Edgar Ross, who ordered John to kill his former brother-in-arms. A worried Jack rushes to help his mother but is quickly infected as well, prompting John to hogtie them. Jack practicing his aiming skills, with John by his side. Suddenly. Even Red Harlow, Revolvers main character, is remembered in Redemption. As the player character, Jack shares most of his animations with his father but is provided with his own unique voice and lines, which tend to include references to his father, mother, Uncle, Landon Ricketts, lawmen, and animals. Jack's general attitude, character and personality in 1914 is very reflective of the player's honor level. )Lancelot Milton (?)Mr. He saw the gang as his uncles and aunts, who watched over his growth and shielded his innocence from their more nefarious actions. Thanks mainly to the help of John's closest friend in the gang, Arthur, the Marston family managed to escape from their life of crime, with the intention of starting a new life. The games vast and atmospheric world will also provide the foundation for a brand new online multiplayer experience. So I believe he either went to war forcefully or fled to Mexico. He then unpacks his stuff and begins buying supplies to run the ranch once more. But he eventually gets on the FIB's wanted list, and now he pursued across the country with the full weight of the federal government. He was the only true innocent caught up in all that mess. By his own admission, he greatly enjoyed reading about wild adventures and brave heroes, which gave him a more romanticized view on the Old West, and his remarks in 1914 suggest he looked up to the legendary Landon Ricketts. He leads his gang of outcasts from in 1915 across the Americas midwest up until the failed robbery of the St Denis casino boat where Jacks gang tried to rob in 1917 of late April. Despite only three years passing, Jack appears decidedly older than 19, although this can be chalked up to the stress of his parent's deaths and his rough lifestyle. RELATED: All 15 Red Dead Redemption 2 Characters Based On Real People. Red Dead RedemptionStranger Side-missionRemember My Family The only canonical action of jack Marston is killing Edgar Ross, as thats when the credits roll, I think at some point he would have shipped off to europe for ww1. After reading stories, as well as hearing stories from his father, Jack decides to ride to Tall Trees, and hunt a bear, in order to prove that he is no longer a kid. I like this whole story.. but one thing I don't like in this is the fact that Jack starts calling himself "Tacitus killgore".. that was Arthur's alternate name and Jack had no idea that Arthur had been using that name in 1899.. And by the end of the first act, the biggest shift should be that the mobs need you far less now, and you're no longer able to use their resources. I think that if ww1 happened in the red dead universe, and Jack was still alive and out of prison after the events of rdr1, he would probably be drafted in 1918. It's to the game's credit that there's no narrative pressure to avenge the injustice. Will there be a Red Dead 3? When approached by a prostitute they will be disgusted with Jack and turn him down. And cars should be strategic. During the non-canon Undead Nightmare DLC, Jack becomes infected, along with his mother. Jack Marstonmission strand:"The Last EnemyThat Shall Be Destroyed" The epic storyline of Red Dead Redemption and Red Dead Redemption 2spans roughly 15 years, focusing in part on Jack Marston, leading many to wonder about his age. Jack and Abigail then proceed to bury both John and Uncle on the hill overlooking the ranch. I know this is a really old thread but im replaying the game right now and i love talking about this game! But saying that I think a game beginning with Jack returning from the war and trying to adjust to modern life would fit the themes of the games so far, it'd just obviously be quite a different setting. While this may seem like a ploy to increase the players emotional attachment to Jack, considering the boy is kidnapped by the Braithwaites shortly after, its inclusion may also be hinting at Arthurs own tragic backstory, and the fact that he never got a chance to be a real father to his son. Jack explains his book's tale of an Aztec man who apparently must kill his people who have been infected by a virus or plague, before he's been cut out by Abigail criticizing the tale as "absolutely disgusting and completely unbelievable". But Jack isn't the same man as before as the horrors of ww1 had scared and moulded jack into a hardened man, which affected his ability to return to society by not being able to hold a job, in where he goes on to reform his gang while adding in a few new additions from some friend of war were they rob trains, banks and bootleg imported liquor from Europe this is also were they make connections with the new york crime family were the become close partners were they supply the gang with ammunition and Jack provides protection for the family. It's the latter that identifiesJohn's birth year as 1873, making him about 38 years old. Jack and Edgar Ross are the only central characters in the series to appear in all four time periods: 1899 and 1907 in, Jack and Ross meet only two times, during ". He does Jack looks down at his handgun, understanding that while he avenged his family by killing the man who destroyed them, Jack is close to become an outlaw, the very life his father didn't want for him, and tried to avoid it in every way. It should be a long mission. He wears a beige jacket, a white button-up shirt with a red neckerchief and dark, dirty pants. A nineteen-year-old Jack, fresh after burying his mother. John was therefore left in the care of his father, who was "blinded in a bar fight, south of Chicago" and later died. At the player arrival, only Ross's wife is present. After John returns, he asks Jack about the book he's reading; an Aztec man who apparently must kill his people who have been infected by a virus or plague, which happens to foreshadow the events of the Undead Nightmare. When referring to Abigail and Johns relationship, Dutch says, We all had her, but he married her. Its also been heavily implied that Jack may not be Johns biological son. 1899- Jack is between the age four-year old boy with brown hair and faint freckles on his face. When playable, Jack can be heard muttering to himself or even towards his deceased father when idle for stretches of time. A picture of the three Marston family members in Red Dead Redemption 2 (c. 1899): John, Abigail, and their son Jack. Though this is speculation, I think it makes the most sense rather than a full on remake of RDR 1. Gameplay WebGameplay. Jack very rarely leaves the camp, with one notable exception being when Arthur takes him fishing - a trip which is soured by the arrival of Pinkerton agents Milton and Ross. Jack is later kidnapped by the Braithwaite family and given to Angelo Bronte and is missing from the gang for some time before returning to the gang after they complete a business deal to get him back. WebWhat happens if you don't help Mary in RDR2? Its not outlandish to think that Abigail may have contracted something while on the job, causing her untimely death. Tilly then rides away with Jack, who is unaware that it would be the last time he saw Arthur, due to his advanced tuberculosis. The games vast and atmospheric world will also provide the foundation for a brand new online multiplayer experience. on the map. Mansion (?) Sometime ago, Jack lost his younger sister. Afterwards, it is unclear whether Jack finally settled down after Ross death or continued a life of crime. Dialogues But how old is Jack by the end of things, when he takes up his father's mantle? He probably got killed by the government like John or by some outlaw or someone seeking vengeance much like he did. During their ride back home, John expresses disappointment in his son's actions, while Jack argued at his father's sparse involvement in his life. An easter egg (although not confirmed that GTA and RDR are in the same world) in GTA V reveals that after almost becoming an outlaw, Jack returns to his normal life, a life separate from his fathers, a life his family wanted all along. The only canonical action of jack Marston is killing But maybe that's me wishing all the suffering Arthur and John went through wasn't for nothing. I think hed be an outlaw, to be honest - I cant see what else he would do and work for bounty hunters would be getting increasingly scarce to the point it would soon disappear as a career (this is 1914 now, not really the Wild West anymore). He hates the Government so I doubt he joined up for either War. I think Jack would've gone low profile after killing Ross. Circa 1894, a prostitute named Abigail Roberts became affiliated with the gang; despite sleeping with most of the gang's members, she eventually fell in love with John. Uncle calls for John, as he noticed a big group of lawmen and soldiers attack the ranch (unknown to Jack). I believe Jack Marston would've just killed Ross and just parted ways with the outlaw life. It was about making a better life for our boy Jack. That'd be really nice, but if he's forced to have to good karma in order to live, then wouldn't that take away some of the "freedom" in the game? John hugs Jack before the assault on the ranch. In 1911, Jack's appearance is roughly the same, only a few years older, though his hair has grown a bit longer. Abigail's dialogue implies Jack was returned to normal after her. You play as him after RDR1, meaning (at least for a while) he followed in his fathers footsteps and became an outlaw. Jack taking vengeance on Ross has the implications that Jack didn't go on to live a normal, moral life Also im pretty late to the party, just finished Red dead redemption. The same goes for Edgar's wife and brother in the earlier steps. After a long journey, John finally finds the cure to stop the undead plague, returning a cursed Aztec mask back to where it belongs. So Jack made a deal with the FIB so that if takes down the crime family jack and his gang can all have their names cleared off and the agent agrees and after jack and his gang are able to leave the life of crime. Sometime after helping both Abigail and Uncle, John takes time with teaching Jack hunting and skinning. If Jack has a low Honor level, he will in turn have a sadistic, belligerent attitude during gameplay and often makes dark jokes whenever he kills a horse, an outlaw or a woman, but also shows signs of disgust at himself and questions his own actions. Soon afterwards, the Marston family temporarily moved to the Yukon to participate in the ongoing gold rush, but they didnt make much from it. His hair now reaches his shoulders, the exact same hairstyle his father wore in 1899. He basically spends a good time after his fathers revenge being a Wild West vigilante. One thing is for sure. On a smaller scale of course. He wouldve been the prime age they were looking for when the selective service act was enacted. In 1911, John is forced to take up the role of gunslinger once again when Edgar Ross and Archer Fordham find him at his ranch and force him to hunt down and capture or kill his former gang members by capturing his son and wife. 1911- Jack now has longer hair and is a few years older, He wears a dark grey vest, a blue and white striped shirt, and brown pants. The two go on a hunting trip with Rufus and take down a pair of elk. After being learned how to herd cattle, Jack returns to Marston's Ranch along with his father. as jack is sitting on his porch, he notices 4 armed officers approaching down his drive. His hairstyle appears fairly similar to when he has a child, but he now wears a white button-up shirt and a vest. He isnt robbing banks to get somewhere, he's doing it as a fuck you to the big guys who kept the little guys down. Sometimes only at the end of a story do you realize what it was all really about. Mount The true end of Red Dead Redemption, however, takes place in 1914, putting Jack's final age at just 19. TransitoryPronghorn Ranch (temporarily; 1907)Beecher's Hope (1907- c.1914) And my god, what an amazing game but it got me thinking we still don't really have a headcanon for Jack. However, Marston eventually ran away and, at some point later, met Dutch van der Linde, who took him in and saved him from a hanging in Chicago when he was 12 and served as a father figure to him alongside Hosea Matthews. Note: The events of Undead Nightmare are not considered part of the same canon as Red Dead Redemption. For this duel, targeting Edgar in a lethal manner is required. They bury John and Uncle on the hill overlooking the ranch. Jack eventually turned his life around. Occupation Location Red Dead Redemption's central character, however, is Jack's father,John, an outlaw who eventually tries tosever ties with his criminal past in no small part for the sake of his wife, Abigail, and his son. Declining to help Mary will prevent players from being able accept a future mission to help Mary's father.If Red Dead Redemption 2 players want to avoid this mistake, they should agree to help Mary. John Marston, Jr. also known as Jack Marston, is a character in the Red Dead series who appears as the deuteragonist of Red Dead Redemption. Nicknames Had Children. The Marston family goes to sleep, and although Jack voices his worry for Uncle's absence, John decides to leave things for the next day. I think Jack has lived a rancher life and sometime he has gone chasing after bounties. Create an account to follow your favorite communities and start taking part in conversations. With that, it's fairly easy to figure out his age as events progress. After the elk hunting, Jack begins to train with his rifle. That's kind of a cool thought, Jack in the military. Not everyone he helped would be caught up, it's unreasonable to think that. but thing aren't as dandy as before as the ranch is falling apart and to get by jack turns to money leaders which continue to harass him on a daily basis. Jack's dialogue with pedestrians will be more friendly but also jaded and somewhat somber. After John and Uncle clear the ranch from the first wave of soldiers, the former enters the house and tells to Jack and Abigail to escape to the barn, as well, ordering Jack to stay at the house. JackJackieJackie Boy (? Jack puts back the handgun in his hostler, before walking away from the scene. Additional info Hi! I could see the government in the red dead universe catching up to him for his crimes and giving him an option of hanging or serving. Jack is the son of the game's protagonist, John Marston. 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