mamamoo problematic thread

I don't think anything they have done has been malicious, however it was a product of maybe not being knowledgeable of what may be considered offensive to others. i know you deemed your siwon thing heavily unreliable but even the fanvideo is wrong. Posts: 337. I messed up, a lot, and I honestly do regret making the post. Mamamoo is a 4 member girl group under Rainbow Bridge World whose members are Solar, Moonbyul, Wheein and Hwasa and they made their debut on 19th June 2014. They are not exactly multicultural societies vs. north america. As I am not muslim (and Im not sure if you are or not) I feel as though its not really up for me to say whether or not its offensive ora reach. MAMAMOO debuted on June 18, 2014, along with their single "Mr. Ambiguous." MAMAMOO was commended along with their first single by the critics as one of the best K-pop debut group in 2014. A subreddit for the four member kpop group, MAMAMOO! Im ironically bad at dealing with conflict, which might make some people question why I started this blog (it was actually an accident, long story), but Ive tried not to let it affect my running of this blog. With reference to the Baekhyun-autism-comment issue, it has been a topic of much debate as many people have said that the korean word for autistic is similar to the korean word for defeated-i want to clarify that i do not speak korean so i cannot judge this myself-and that it was just a mistranslation. 1 2 3 4 5 Maria29 Kpop Rookie Member Joined Dec 6, 2022 Messages 38 Location Houston Tx Credits 141 Jan 25, 2023 #81 I included links to a post explaining why Siwons alleged homophobic comment was extremely dubious and likely to be untrue, though I guess I probably shouldnt have included it at all (I assumed people would go to the link). window.googletag.pubads().addEventListener('slotRenderEnded', function(event) { Have they done offensive and hurtful things in the past? This, combined with their Immortal Song wins, truly demonstrates just how much of an impact Mamamoo has, as their reach goes far beyond just kpop. And despite Hwasa's fans attempting to set the record straight through her own apologies and explanations, the hashtag continued to be used by many to troll the idol. We will not waver; we will not tire; we will not falter, and we will not fail. Someone might think its petty or ridiculous but theres no reason for people to put up with something offensive if they dont want to. Im aware people hold stuff against suju quite a lot, especially in comparison to other problematic groups like BigBang and 2NE1, who I rarely see get criticised, but that doesnt counteract the fact that suju have messed up before (because theyre human beings). Anyway, I hope this didnt come across as rude or anything, but I really need to go to sleep now. I never thought it would gain the traction that it did and I dont feel comfortable running it at the moment, Im sorry. document.querySelector("#google_image_div").addEventListener('click',function(){ I also hear about a clown outfit she wore in one of their videos that people again try to say was blackface but how when she's naturally tan and didn't look any different than normal so I was like huh. Koreaboo, a digital media company, also reached out to the group because of the incident, and attempted to explain to them exactly why their video was so hurtful. In response to the criticisms of how I was presenting my information, they are valid criticisms. Threads: 200. I think this is one thing that remains somewhat undecided but considering Baekhyuns track record, I wouldnt put it past him tbh. Your question/message will be answered rudely or even deleted if you have not read the FAQ first. Mamamoo isn't even the first K-Pop group or artist to don blackface in 2012, Big Bang's G-Dragon (who have been called the "biggest band in Asia") posted a horrific photo that many believed was. Mamamoo member Hwasa is one of the most compelling female idols. }); (but if you need the actual fan account to knock that off, i guess ill find someone who can give that to you. As for the Kris thing, Im aware its Heechuls opinion, but considering Kris left for very valid reasons (and was practically being abused by SM, as it seems many of the Chinese members were) I would say that it could be consideredproblematic to call Kris disrespectful for leaving, especially after all the shit he got from fans and the members themselves. Shaun of @shaun_vids on Twitter said recently in response to another girl's hate storm against her that mirrors the exact same patterns as Mamamoo's, If someone does something worthy of criticism, and that criticism is then directly delivered thousands of times by different people (a section of whom will go much too far and be genuinely abusive), it all just merges into abuse in the perception of the one being criticised.. Explore the latest videos from hashtags: #mamamooproblematic, #mamamooegotistic, #mamaproblematica, # . eventCategory: event.slot.getSlotElementId(), We are one of the worlds fastest growing One tweet asked, "What we feeling today -er or -a? With the Henry thing, I also understand where youre coming from. 1. The environment that they grew up in is much different than ours; they're surrounded by customs and norms from their own society and culture. . I read something the other day that said we forgive the people not the actions which I think is a accurate way of thinking. They received their first music show win in 2016 with Youre The Best and have since gone on to win dozens more, ending 2019 with a combined total of 41 music show wins, making them one of the most highest winning girl groups in history. Mamamoo are good, genuine people. Things not included arent included because they DIDNT happen, stop believing lies told by edgy K-pop stans w/o any receipts. This is extremely disheartening, as Hwasa has spent her entire life fighting against such backwards thoughts as that. It has become commonplace to trash Mamamoo and Hwasa in particular, just another meme or joke to let slide. },false) Mamamoo themselves wrote: We were extremely ignorant of blackface and did not understand the implications of our actions. (Also just a little side note, I know people arent aware and I havent specified it on this blog, but please dont refer to me with she/her pronouns! I like most of the members included in that post, please dont try to make it out like I dont, because it perpetuates the idea that fans cant criticise the things they love. I'm pretty sure that a lot of people have heard of the blackface scandal. Normal version comes with 1 random photocard out of 4. }) Ill probably look for another video of the same segment at some point but I dont have time right now. So those are the most controversial things talked about that Mamamoo has done. Zhoumi laughed about the earthquake of 6.8 magniture that hit Taiwan saying When the earthquake struck just then, it was just like playing. Moreover, Zhou Mi even used last years Si Chuan earthquake as comparison, saying: Last year, when we were promoting in China, we also met an earthquake, and it was pretty happy. And Han Geng who was beside him immediately rushed forward to clarify: He (Zhou Mi) doesnt mean happy. However, it was too late, as everything was already recorded by the media. eventCategory: event.slot.getSlotElementId(), If you would not be able to handle it being done to you, dont do it to others, no matter how big or famous those other people are. When you choose to spend that privilege constantly mocking and harassing people online, well, karma's going to come back to you, in some form or another. After Wendys tragic and heartbreaking fall, immediately there were dozens upon dozens of tweets wishing Hwasa could take her place and become horribly injured. Discover short videos related to mamamoo being problematic on TikTok. Korean girl group Mamamoo apologized Saturday after a video clip aired at their concert that featured the quartet in blackface. } People @Pr0blematicIdol follows or mentioned can reply Problematic Idols @Pr0blematicIdol Jan 3, 2021 Replying to @Pr0blematicIdol And it appears they still hold her accountable for it, largely owing to past instances of appropriation, such as wearing a durag. and I know it would've been much, much lower if I didn't force y'all to give the NMIXX songs an average of at least 3.00. Its so sad because I love them and hope they grow more internationally. hitType: 'event', When I say this, the person might think, Look whos talking, but I would reply, Im a boy and youre a girl, To this, both Kim Shin Young and announcer Gu Eun Young retorted, Why does gender matter in this situation? Of course I was disappointed in some of the things they've done and said, but we all make mistakes and they've acknowledged them and apologized. Yet we wonder why idols have to constantly showcase an "image" in order to not upset fans. Maybe you are just too sensitive?? ", Hey remember dressing up in blackface with the rest of Mamamoo #AskHwasa pic.twitter.com/3AqtVlig1n, what we feeling today -er or -a? ", #AskHwasa biggie or tupac? cc @sexeyXR @chsjason @Mata10. During their concert on Friday in Seoul, Mamamoo released a. }); Another chose to call out an even older incident, one in which Hwasa used the n-word while covering a Beyonc song. Maybe ive just checked really bad websites. problematickpop:. I was enjoying binging 4 years worth of missed content from them but I guess it's inevitable that I stumbled on . That crosses every sort of line. On Strong Heart Henry revealed that when he first came to Southkorea he thought his fellow members were gay and that Kim Heechul was transgender. But she probably could not have predicted that an #AskHwasa hashtag could have drawn out some of the worst Twitter drags in recent times. I made an exo masterpost and since then Ive had a lot of messages from people telling me that they no longer feel that they can bias Chanyeol or Baekhyun, which is their own personal decision, and something that they chose based on information I provided. Im not trying to run away from anything, if you have issues with any of the things I say or do (because I am privileged in certain aspects) please dont feel afraid to bring them up! Wore a headscarf in a similar way to a hijab in, When a male fan said Saranghae (I love you) to him, he responded by going, Made the picture of Yesung in blackface his, Def Conn was talking about a trade he did with an African American regarding some Micheal Jordan shoes in which Kyuhyun retorted, Said that Kais defining feature was that his, Then proceeded to say Taos face color is dark because its green at 23:11 of the same, Assigned gummy bears to Exo-K members and, In the same interview, Kai sort of called him out on his colorism/shadism and Chanyeol said , Used a caricature app to make the Exo members and created, When Xiumin chose him as first place after being asked which exo member hed date if he were a girl, he saidIt feels pretty good to be in first place, but it is first place from the viewpoint of a male but then said a few seconds laterThis first place feels a little its a good thing! Her wig: Now I can understand how it can be seen as cultural appropriation. Even if it was a joke or a passing, it wasnt very funny. The callout, this time, however, was linked to the singer's inclusion of Latin-themed elements in her song's lyrics and music. 4) I included the hijab thing for Heechul because I saw muslim fans point it out and say that it made them uncomfortable. As Ive said before, Im not a muslim, and I was just going off of what Id seen other muslim bloggers say. Everyone is welcome, fans and non-fans. I dont know how familiar you are with vixx, but N is constantly put down by hisfriends about his appearance (specifically his skin color) and one of the things Kangin criticised him for was his self confidence, which honestly, was really, really rude and definitely uncalled for. hitType: 'event', As Ive said before, I dont know everything, and I try to provide sources for what I post, but Im a bit cynical and I can sometimes put too much trust into what other people say, so please, please, please call me out if you notice me spreading misinformation (it will always be appreciated) and I will update the masterpost. Um yeah they are just that close that they make fun of each other. Its much appreciated :-), Im KOREAN TOO, and shes lying, i will post a video with the REAL ONE and gonna call you out too.-. }); I recently saw their variety show where they traveled to Busan and talked a bit about the past and Moonbyul said something that really squeezed my heart (paraphrasing): "We're human. document.querySelector("#ads").addEventListener('click',function(){ I dont think they take care of their bodies well, Performed with Boom, while he was donning blackface, Called N from VIXX fucking trash among many other things, sneaked into a room in which girls were sleeping and touched them, I do not wish to acknowledge homosexuals, that scenario must have looked like a drug deal., Implied negative things about Goo Hara dating around a lot, If someone had to lose weight, I would tell that person to lose weight. Im going to leave this blog up so people can still refer to some of the posts and look through the tags. As for the criticism of my post in your tags, I still feel like it was appropriate to include the Kris thing, though I understand why some people dont think its offensive/problematic. Like who is the next ethnicity youre going to offend? },false) Refresh the page,. They make a difference. 1,891 Rep. 1 Year of Service. Non fans for all the questions, suggestions, reviews, anything. One user shared, "HELP THE QUESTIONS FOR #AskHwasa I CANT," along with a screenshot of some of their favorites, another said, "THE TWEETS UNDER THIS HASHTAG ARE RUTHLESS AHAJAKXH," and one joked, "The gates of heaven are not opening for ANY of yall. Others were soon reminding Hwasa once again of her past mistakes, including wearing blackface along with the rest of Mamamoo in a performance where they were parodying Bruno Mars. Its not good when people exaggerate stuff (like they did with Siwon) but its good to keep discussions going on offensive things in kpop, 3) Thank you for the fanaccounts/links about the Siwon thing (Ill add them to the list), thats the kind of thing I appreciate being told because I am not omniscient and I dont know everything (Also I think I already had one of those on there?). I very strongly believe that people can change and one action doesnt define them for the rest of their life, and if I dont include an apology in a post, its always going to be because I didnt know they apologised. Having said that it was still wrong but I don't acquite it to a minstrel show or it have been in a mock manner and I am glad that they apologised and have learnt from that. hitType: 'event', Its easy for us to do because we arent in their position, I know we like to believe that we would be 100% perfect celebrities if we were given the chance, but we havent been in the spotlight for 10 years (Im sure I would have messed up far more than some of the members have over 10 years). Joined: May 2022. Some of the stuff I included turned out to be something I misunderstood (for example, the gifset of Siwon) and with other things, I didnt include enough information or included misinformation. Ive said it before and Ill say it again, that post wasnt made with the intent of hurting Super Junior or their fans, nor was it made for the purpose of bashing Super Junior. Thank you~). pg.acq.push(function() { As the n-word is decidedly not of Asian-country origins it would make sense that she would not know the meaning of a English word that she is quickly seeing and then singing in a song, as it is a word which takes most, if not all, of its derogatory meaning from American context. Group. I recently fell in love with these girls again after I took a break from kpop. ", The link includes the statements released on the group's behalf, most notably, their own apologies for their use of blackface which was released within four hours of the video going out. (especially since hes never repeated anything like that.). Thats not true. Advanced Faker. For the writer herself, she said she used to stan Mamamoo and doesn't anymore because of the problematic things they've done. Yes, I should have included more info and specified where I wasnt knowledgable. also please read this before trying to contact me about any of this. Regardless, a fan who thinks that its not a problem isnt going to hold it against Heechul, the point of the post isnt to make you hate the idols (Heechul is literally one of my ultimate biases) its just supposed to be informative. Comes with 1 group photocard and 2 random member photocards out of 8. During their concert on Friday in Seoul, Mamamoo released a. Only four hours after the incident occurred, both Mamamoo and their company RBW wrote out an apology in both Korean and English and posted it online. 5) Again, I included the Kangin thing because I have seen a huge amount of fans get upset by it. if(document.querySelector("#ads")){ We're celebrities too but we're human first.". If a celebrity said something homophobic 5 years ago but is now a huge activist in the lgbtq+ community, its likely that they were just ignorant and have learned since. I have a tendency to get a bit defensive and come across as rude/mocking/patronising/self righteous when I dont mean to, which Im trying to work on, but its hard to tell when Im doing it, so I try to avoid argument a lot. Another thing referenced against Hwasa is the occasion she dressed up as a clown. I only made the post because Ive personally received asks about whether or not there is a Super Junior master post and whether specific members have done anything, and thought itd be easy to compile a list, seeing as thats sorta what this blog is for. Mamamoo Has Been Receiving Hate Storms- And It's Only Getting Worse. In the age of the Internet, in the age where absolutely anything can be done online, your actions online matter. The post isnt supposed to be the be-all-and-end-all of offensive super junior. 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