curing tobacco in jars

The Old Firm (author) from Waikato/Bay Of Plenty, New Zealand on January 21, 2016: Hi Hops, beer and 'baccy go together mate, have a top New Year too. Cover the soil with newspaper or a bit of cardboard to keep it damp. The Old Firm (author) from Waikato/Bay Of Plenty, New Zealand on February 17, 2015: No I haven't tried that. Im wanting either a mild hazlenut or chocolate flavor. Thanks a lot, Yes i have read your article and gave very good things ty but one question is pesticides can i use them on the plant's and will i get sick from it. only grown one plant this year. Answer: It should be okay in a large bucket. Find a shelter where youll have some control over the humidity by opening or closing doors, windows, or vents. Wonderful hub. This process is all done quickly. Yuk, you can buy them from https://ausseeds.com/, Please email us a complete pamphlet about the steps from planting to harvesting tobacco and how to dry and make cigarettes. Death to all bullfrogs, bumptious bureaucrats and politicians!! Answer: I know people that have done both, so it's really up to you which is handiest, I don't think that it makes much difference to the end product. meter for the next hour or so. I'm attempting to grow 3 varieties of tobacco: a Tennessee dark air cure, a Samsun Turkish and Perique. For tips on how to separate the tobacco from the stem when the leaves are dry, read on! 3 years ago. When the leaves are brown and the edges have curled slightly, the process is complete. Do you think theyll go ok in there until after the last frost of winter? Use peppermint oil mixed with water to mist your leaves as they are hanging. If you're not in a rush, take your time and pick the leaves as they come ready. It realy increase my knowledge about the topic. -Week 4 the tobacco chamber should have the sweet smell of a walk in humidor. Spray water, port, rum, honey dissolved in any of the aforementioned, or pretty well any consumable liquid. The dried leaves will be slightly sticky, and theyll have the feeling of very thin leather. After drying the leaves then adding flavour such as vodka and then slicing/cutting would I store the tobacco in a air tight container? There are other ways to grow tobacco and other ways to cure the stuff. The wide mouth makes it easy to get your buds in and out of the jar without making a mess, and it has an airtight lid that will keep your buds from losing moisture during curing. % of people told us that this article helped them. The biggest difference is that the plastic box did too good of a job sealing in the moisture, and perhaps there was too much to begin with. Commercially it used to have saltpeter (potassium nitrate) added to keep it going, although I don't know what's used now. Don't pick the whole plant at once, since they will become ready over a period of weeks. Thin the seedlings as soon as they're big enough, either by placing individual plants into four-inch pots or about a dozen into an ice-cream container. 12.5% cure for between 5 and 10 days. 2023 The Arena Media Brands, LLC and respective content providers on this website. Pull out any small plants or weeds that try to crowd each tobacco plant. Our politicians will waste tens of millions on a futile flag referendum (and then probably twist the results - the head of the CIA visited last week) then they tax the Hell out of smokers - over 90% of the retail cost of tobacco returns to the government in some form of taxation (a conservative estimation) but smokers are denied the medical treatment of others as they "caused their own problems". You get the picture. Answer: An airtight container's a good idea, but I can't tell you how long the tobacco will last. 3D Printed Futuristic Space Age Wall Clock. They were small plants, about 2 ft (60 cm) high when winter hit. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. Growth will stop until the weather warms up, then continue, but the plants will be smaller. Anyhow, I ordered from them and began growing. Put tobacco in jar. Answer: I've never bothered fermenting, and nor have any of my friends. Please help me Old Firm! Really its just a foam cooler with a $5 light from Home Depot now Oct. 26, 2011 UPDATE: In the final version of this fermenter, a (I simply used a cooler with no air holes, just one hole punched at the top for the light fixture). Sun curing can be done by setting the leaves in the sun for a week until dry. -Week 3 smells very strongly like raisins. I'll go into why transferring to a jar might be ideal in the next section. Do I have to ferment the leaves at all? Thanks for the nice comments. If you need more seed google King Seeds in Katikati, (I've a link in the text). I did have a hard time sleeping at night with the chamber light bulb on. Have you tried this method? Putting them in an oven at VERY low heat for an hour or so will also dry them ready to cut and smoke but I can't guarantee that they'll yellow as much as slow drying. Right now I have a number of shirazi leaves shade curing and I'm using this time to do some research about apothecary jars, but i've got to move fast and get some jars here in order to make sure the leaves don't dry up. this is a couple of hours later.. its a little sweaty box now, Reply Hi there, You have done a fantastic job. Now, any ideas on how I could take this to the next level & make it into clove cigarettes? They stopped growing until spring, but the leaves stayed healthyno wilting or browningand around the end of September, they took off again. Question: Can you soak tobacco in rum and wine? A previous blog post by Chuck discussed the effects of aging tobacco, the impact the curing process has on aging blends, and the chemical changes that occur inside a tinned blend. At this point, pick them. :). It's a bit late now to plant outdoors, but you can probably start your seedlings in the hothouse, or better still in little pots on a warm windowsill (Like in the kitchen) . The Old Firm (author) from Waikato/Bay Of Plenty, New Zealand on July 17, 2018: Try misting the dried leaves with a mixture of oil of cloves (from the chemist) and water. Is that a constant 50c or would it be averaged over a 3day or so cycle? The Old Firm (author) from Waikato/Bay Of Plenty, New Zealand on September 13, 2014: The bowler hat brigade - too stupid to "do" so spend their lives telling us "not to do". The following is a helpful "Q and A" following this project. Hi we live in sunny Bay of Plenty and want to give it a go. And how long will this last in this storage method? This seems a good place to take you by the hand and walk you through some basic arithmetic if you haven't already done so yourself. Stack leaves (10-20+) and sweat in sun or oven in winter. Question: My tobacco leaves have been hanging for around 3 months, the tips seem to keep going brittle so I have misted them with water as they have become brittle again, is this method ok? Reckon next year I will have to double my crop, I may be a bit shy this year. (These have some glorious botanical name that doesn't matter a bit. Time is said to cure all things, and tobacco is near the top of the list. I joined the hub just to thank you.). In this fermenter, these conditions are achieved by a light bulb heat source, directed by a reflector dish towards the pile of air cured tobacco under it. Have fun, good luck, and thanks for dropping in. Don't humidify kiln to prevent rusty lids. Mr. HubPages is a registered trademark of The Arena Platform, Inc. Other product and company names shown may be trademarks of their respective owners. It depends on the tobacco, I guess. Before starting here's a small note of discretion: Typically tobacco growing hobbyist raise and cure these plants for the pure enjoyment of taking care of this fast growing monster! Sit back, drink your moonshine (I'm writing an article on distilling), and watch them grow. You know what to look for.) I have a bag of locally grown and cured tobacco leaves suitable for smoking in a pipe but would like to make my own tobacco oil for candles and perfume. This is a cheap and accessible possibility to achieve the conditions required for fermentation. Finally, pour the hot water to the level of the tobacco in the jars. Taking the focus away from tobacco congratulations once more! Trying to perfect the cutting now but am very happy with my "own grown". Answer: It's fine, (If you want to speed drying put some leaves in a VERY low oven for an hour or more until they are dry enough to suit). Treat it as you would tomatoes. Sprinkle seeds very lightly over the soil (but don't cover them with dirt). This site uses cookies to help personalise content, tailor your experience and to keep you logged in if you register. on Introduction. Canadian Virginian plant, so I've not looked back. Let the flowers bloom and die off. Question: When growing and curing tobacco at home, do we do a fermentation/sweating process after drying? Tobacco grows best in places that are dry and warm. This will keep the leaves moist but reduce the chance of mold developing while theyre in storage. Frankly, if you're regularly ingesting nicotine, traces of ammonia, if they exist, should be the least of your concerns,- and homegrown tobacco is a lot less dangerous than the commercial stuff. I would like to make a kiln, and Im thinking about rigging it up with 12v solar so I can justify leaving it on, but in the meantime I wonder whether leaving the jars there as opposed to somewhere else for a year would make a significant difference. some plastic corks to keep the purple basket out of the water - filled the purple basket with the tobacco and put quite a thick bit of plastic over the top the plastic has been stretched and taped in place.. it has all been cleaned because this sort of condition breeds mold. The site loading pace is amazing. Question: My tobacco is too strong. Very educational. Curing is a 3 part process:1) Drying (color curing): to take out majority of the moisture. Answer: I'm sorry but I can't really help you as there are too many unknowns. The host saw me wandering around puffing on my pipe and he kindly gave me a tobacco plant in a pot. Whether its for smoking, for ceremonial use, or for an insect repellent solution, there are many reasons to dry, or air-cure, your own tobacco leaves. The Old Firm (author) from Waikato/Bay Of Plenty, New Zealand on September 21, 2014: Here's some info that i copied and pasted from this hub a couple of years ago. We have seeds. Question: What strain of tobacco do you grow? chop up the leaves and smoke 'em. I've been drawing from T.A. I grow tobacco in a tiny area where I live, about 400 feet (120 metres) above sea level, in a moderate, semi-coastal climate. The Old Firm (author) from Waikato/Bay Of Plenty, New Zealand on April 04, 2014: Thanks for your comments, I use HubPages, as per heading; free to use, just join up. !, i want to ask you why? The best vessel to use for aging pipe tobacco is the Mason Jar. Built a box frame 2'6" sq. The Old Firm (author) from Waikato/Bay Of Plenty, New Zealand on October 21, 2015: Hi Guys (and Gals) sorry that I've been AWOL for a while. Preparing the leaf is the same for both. My pleasure.. (still looking forward to your distillation blog ;). You'll know they're ready for use when theyve turned dark brown and the edges of each leaf are curled. For some, growing tobacco is an absolute obsessionand its easy to see why! It has been most helpful. See what your first try is like, you can always tart it up as you go along. Using the ones made for smoking, bleached, or with added chemicals is not ideal, to say the very least. Although I may not be identifying the ammonia as released from tobacco leaves correctly. But to me, all of these smells were delicious!! Put tobacco in jar. on Step 5, when air curing has happened with my plants there are vast diffrents in colour between the diffrent leafs some are dark brown - light brown but some are a very dark green.. they are cured they just seem to hold there colour..? Answer: I grow the one that I originally bought from King's Seeds in Katikati NZ years ago. Many thanks. Feed a thin tomato stake (or something similar) through these slits so that when you hold the stick horizontally, the leaves hang down about an inch apart. Compared with correctly grown plants. He then cuts it and uses it straight away. tobacco enthusiast on September 16, 2014: Luther 2 the b8g ribs can be Removed! Tobacco does grow like crazy once it gets going, about 3 months from seedling to 7 ft plant even in my temperate climate in Summer. It will grow in pretty much any type of soil you have. A good recommended fill blend for a home grown cigar is 30% Havana leaf and 70% Virginia leaf with a Havana wrapper. This is predominately a writers/informational blog, but can be quite social in its comments, as you may have noted above. As for the number of plants to be self-sufficient in Baccy for my pipe? Aging ? Question: How long would tobacco take to grow in a tropical climate like Australia? Thank you for any other informative site. I really enjoyed your little tobacco story guideAwesome. Store the seeds safely. Also how do you keep the humidity. Allow 2 meters headroom if you keep them inside and remember to pick out the sideshoots growing in the leaf joins (just like tomatoes do) they can be planted too for a later crop. im in manchester uk.. i have tried drying in about 4 diffrent places now over 2 years .. i dried that lot in the loft so there was temp fluctuation. I turned out a first-class flake tobacco from some leaf that I'd left in a box in a corner of my garage for a year and forgotten about. Well, short of dynamiting them, running them over with a ten-ton digger, searing them with a flamethrower, or soaking the stuff in weed-killer, tobacco pretty much looks after itself. they were small, but still over 6' high. Pots in the greenhouse should be fine, tobacco's very hardy. 11 years ago That being said, so can drinking, singing off-key, eating too much (or not enough) meat, and so on. Well what an informative article, I tried many years ago to grow tobacco, plants grew fine but mucked up the curing process, I want to flavour the stuff for pipe smoking, I have a very large jar of glycerine in the garage could I use that with port and brandy, spray the leaf, let dry, then press and mature but for how long - best guess for a guide pls, also I want to give some hand rolling tobacco to my colleagues at Christmas, I'm harvesting and curing now,(August) once dried I'm putting it in a plastic air tight box, will that be long enough time for it to mellow/mature. Wear sterile disposable gloves and fill each jar about of the way full with your dried and trimmed buds. Soon, you'll notice that tobacco is quite an attractive ornamental with small, pretty, pink flowers. Also I wanted to add that the post is great and very easy to follow ..I am in Aus and have been growing now for a while and am getting some extremely good results but I am still waiting to have my first taste..I think the hardest part for me is going to be the cutting as I like a very fine cut and if anyone can suggest something that is not to expensive I will be very happy, anyway thanks for reading and hope to hear from some of you out there even in Qld..Cheers. Share it with us! The Old Firm (author) from Waikato/Bay Of Plenty, New Zealand on November 07, 2015: Hi quicksand, long time no hear, How's it going? I assume that you want to either roll a cigarette or use a pipe. Leaves that dry too fast may remain green. Re-pot them a couple of times, use you hot-house when they get bigger and you can grow them there or transplant in spring. If you hit 71% or greater, you will have to take the bud out to dry more. If you dry your tobacco in your home, be sure to mind the temperature and humidity to avoid drying the leaves too quickly. The same goes with tobacco: To cure it, first you've gotta pick it. Best of luck with your research. This is typically the culprit. Adrian Rankin-Maclean on August 10, 2020: Very informative article I tried many years ago to grow tobacco, plants grew fine but mucked up the curing process, I want to flavour the stuff for pipe smoking, I have a very large jar of glycerine in the garage could I use that with port and brandy, spray the leaf, let dry, then press and mature but for how long - best guess for a guide pls, also I want to give some hand rolling tobacco to my colleagues at Christmas, I'm harvesting and curing now,(August) once dried I'm putting it in a plastic air tight box, will that be long enough time for it to mellow/mature. The primary tobacco curing methods consist of air curing, sun curing, fire curing, and flue curing. Does the Brod and Taylor bread proofing cabinet work good for cureing tobacco? The place else may just I get that type of info written in such a perfect way? Very refreshing to be able to find the simple info you want without having read heaps of seriously boring rubbish at the same time!! Well heres hoping! Answer: If it works for you, keep doing it. Answer: I remove the stems because they're woody and would produce lumpy tobacco. I'm doing it with potatoes. Plant them in reasonably rich, well-dug soil (with well-composted vegetable matter if you've got it). Temperature range in fermenting. 3 years ago Good luck growing! Answer: It's fine with light frosts. Jars can also be an alternative to cellaring in the tin. I'm not a smoker any more since the heart problems but i do love the feeling of putting one over the Gvt. keep swapping around until all golden brown (they will be damp but silky). Regarding smoking the tobacco though, cigarette and pipe tobacco available commercially is a bit "moist" and pliable. Fill the jars about three quarters of the way, leaving the other quarter empty. mayb to much nitrogen locked in the leaf what do you think, Reply Hanging Tobacco Leaves for Drying 1 Dry tobacco in the fall for the best results. Question: How long are you supposed to cure tobacco for? Wash off any dirt, though. Answer: Spray it with a fine mist of water (or water and alcohol - port, vodka, rum; or water and something sweet) You can get a cheap mister in most garden supply shops and a lot of discount places. But they are surely processed differently. What I can find worryingly little information on is how long you need to ferment it for, depending on what you want to do with it. Here in New Zealand, nothing much seems to bug tobacco, either from above or below ground. 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